Live Action Queer Media Icon Dump
Sep. 11th, 2024 08:20 pm( click here to view the icons! )
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0:04 さあ、お前の罪を歌え。/さあ、お前の罰を疑え。
0:04 “Come, sing your sins.” / “Come, doubt your punishments.”
0:07 ハルカ「なーんだ、こうすれば良かったのか」
0:07 Haruka: “What, was it good for me to do this?”
0:09 ユノ「そういうお説教いらないんですよね. 結局、恋人としていい距離って何がです?」
0:09 Yuna: “I don’t need to hear that kind of sermon…After all, what good is distance to lovers?”
0:11 フータ「俺じゃねぇ。俺のせいじゃねぇ。死ぬかよ普通!拡散したのは俺じゃねぇし。」
0:11 Fuuta: “It’s not me. It’s not my fault. It’s normal to die! I didn’t spread it!”
0:16 ムウ「ちょっとみんな、酷いよぉ~、そんなことしたら痛いって~」
0:16 Mu: “Hey, everyone, it’s terrible~, It hurts if you do that~”
0:11 シドウ「人の中身を取り出したことがありますか...?人の命を重さに、差なんてないんですよ。だったら俺は...救いたい人間を救います」
0:11 Shidou: “Have you ever removed a person’s insides? There is no difference in the weight of people’s lives. I save who I want to save.”
0:12 マヒル「簡単な気持ちで好きだって言わないでよ!(聞き取れない)...愛なんて言葉...使わないでよ...」
0:12 Mahiru: “Don’t say ‘I love you’ like it’s a simple feeling! (unintelligible) The word love…don’t use it…”
0:14 カズイ「あのおっさん(以降低すぎて聞き取れない)あのさぁ、笑わないで聞いてくれよ...(聞き取れない)」
0:14 Kazui: “That old man (unintelligible) Hey, don’t laugh, listen… (unintelligible)
0:25 アマネ「絶対にゆるさない!わたしがお前をゆるさない!うわああああああああああ!!!!!!」
0:25: Amane: “I absolutely won’t forgive you! I won’t forgive you! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!”
0:22 ミコト「ああああああああああ!!!!!うるっせんだよてめぇら!叩き殺してやるよカス共があ!!!」
0:22 Mikoto: “Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! Shut the hell up! I’ll beat you scum to death!”
0:31 コトコ「粛清完了。当然の報いだ。」
0:31 Kotoko: “Purge complete. It’s an appropriate reward.”
Okay, so, as basically anyone who’s talked music with me in the last 10 years can tell you, I’m massively into Deco*27 and if he composed a melody for a phonebook I would listen to it. Thus, despite the fact that I was deeply uncomfortable with the prison setting and the straightjacket aesthetic of the costumes, I ended up getting into Milgram anyway. Like, really into it. And now I have theories.
This one, rather than being about any of the prisoners’ actions, is about Es, who I’m going to be referring to as S from now on (they’re called that several times in the English text on the official website). I think what we know about them gives us a lot of valuable hints about the overall story and the creators’ endgame for Milgram.
So far, we know S is in charge of Milgram, a strange prison with 11 cells, ten of which we know to be occupied. They do not remember much about themself, but they seem willing to accept that life as a prison guard is normal for them. Their behavior towards the prisoners is erratic; at times caring and at times violent. Jackalope probably knows more about them than he has shared with them.
It’s not a lot. But it’s enough to work with.
As most of you probably know, the name “Milgram” is probably a reference to the Milgram Experiment. In this experiment, volunteers were instructed to inflict pain on “other volunteers” (actually actors). During the experiment, many volunteers followed instructions to the point of supposedly inflicting fatal electric shocks. This seems to promise ominous things down the line for the people trapped in Milgram. And it may indeed become relevant. But it’s worth noting that there’s another experiment that’s often mentioned in the same breath as the Milgram experiment—another unethical psychology study that took place in the US in the 20th century (about a decade later, to be precise): the Stanford Prison Experiment.
For those of you unfamiliar with it, the Stanford Prison Experiment was an experiment conducted by a Stanford University professor using college students. He randomly broke the volunteers up into “guards” and “prisoners” and gave the former group control over the latter. The experiment ended after six days because the way that the “guards” were treating the “prisoners” became too extreme, and the professor, Philip Zimbardo, claimed that his work demonstrated the damaging effects of perceived power on those who held it. Later investigation indicated that the study itself was flawed and that Zimbardo had actively encouraged the guards to be tough and cruel toward the prisoners.
Is any of this sounding familiar?
My theory is that the name Milgram is, if not a complete smokescreen, then at least a partial one; this project is based more on the Stanford Prison Experiment than on the Milgram Experiment. To that end, the name we are given for the audience proxy character, S, is probably short for Stanford. This is likely as not a codename or title given to every guard at Milgram, rather than S’s birth name, but I still think I’m right about this one. If the way that Jackalope encourages us to vote for whoever we’d like, whether we actually think they’re guilty or not, isn’t enough, look at the translations of the audio drama CDs helpfully provided by @millgrammer. S repeatedly reasserts their authority as guard, separating themself from the prisoners and placing themself above them. They use physical violence with the prisoners to make points, and even swear at Futa. S is more than a simple audience surrogate; they’re an example of the risks of placing oneself in authority above others.
However, we have to remember that the results of the original Stanford Prison Experiment were rigged. And just as the original volunteers had Professor Zimbardo telling them to behave badly, we have Jackalope encouraging us to vote however we want, even if it’s based on attractiveness. Also, as I’m sure everyone has noticed, Jackalope has conveniently omitted the actual consequences of being found guilty in the final trial.
Make no mistake, S is as trapped as any of the prisoners, an experimental subject just like all the prisoners, and since they’re our surrogate, we’re being experimented on too. We’ve already seen the fandom argue over various fine points of culpability: “If Mu was a bully before her friends turned on her, does that make her more guilty?” “If Haruka is mentally ill, can he be held responsible for his actions?” And that’s what the creators want, but also, it’s us behaving in a way that’s as dangerous to S as it is to any of the prisoners. Deco*27 and the others gave us a few fictional characters to judge and we all appointed ourselves experts in morality even though we still don’t know what any of them did for sure, and we don’t know what the punishments will be if they’re found guilty.
I don’t know if the prisoners will be killed, ultimately. But I have a feeling that the 11th cell is for S, and it’s my personal theory that they’ll end up there if we as the audience condemn the characters to an unknown punishment that may or may not be death—because, given the loose interpretation of murder that some of the MVs released so far seem to suggest, isn’t “condemning a prisoner to death” also murder? How different is what S is doing from what Futa did—even if we don’t know the exact nature of his crimes, we know that Futa thought he was doing the right thing, and S does too. But frankly, S knows as much about the actual situation as Futa did—they aren’t getting direct confessions, they’re trusting a weird machine to extract them in abstract form and then cross-referencing them with other conversations in order to actually make sense of them. We have reason to believe that Futa may have at least witnessed some of the things that he bullied/cyberbullied people over, even if he didn’t care to get the full story; S is working with much less.
So yeah, there are characters that I think are guilty. But I don’t want to vote to condemn them, not until I have a way to defend S’s actions in doing so. This kind of twist feels just like Deco*27, and given the votes so far, I’m bracing myself for it.
So, ok, I had to admit I was a little nervous going into this fic. I’m still nervous about posting it. This is a big and argumentative fandom and that’s not my typical scene.
Anyhow, since this fic hits some sensitive topics, I wanted to explain some of where my decisions came from. I’m not prepared to disclose which bits came from personal experience and which didn’t, and I don’t think I should have to. But I will say that I’m not Chinese. That said, I think I got over my “exoticizing foreign cultures is cool and not harmful at all” phase a while ago. I’ve been in anime fandom; I’ve danced this dance before. It's a big part of why I avoided Chinese kinship terms that had easy English equivalents. Don’t get me wrong, Chinese is a beautiful language and there are things it conveys that English just doesn’t, but it gets real easy to fall into the trap of overusing another language as a way of exoticizing a setting, and I’d like to avoid doing that if possible.
Okay, as far as names go, I went with two words with initial capital letters, regardless of how many characters are involved.I know that this issue has some politics attached to it, but I’ve mostly concerned myself with being consistent and readable, since while I’ve tried to do research, I haven’t found enough people sounding off on one side of the issue or another to know what’s actually going on.
On the topic of how I wrote Lan Zhan as autistic, I’m sure some people may not prefer my approach, but I hope you’ll give it a chance. The word autism was invented by a Swiss psychologist in the 20th century, and a lot of the (upsettingly bad) early research on it also happened in Europe, so I wanted to envision what diagnostics for neurological disorders might look like in this fantasy setting which is both like and unlike ancient China. I took some liberties because that cultivation probably means that medicine advanced in different ways than Chinese medicine would have in a vaguely analogous historical setting (though, as many people have pointed out, The Untamed isn’t really...set in any specific period, it’s set in Chinese Amorphous Fantasy Medieval Times).
As far as how Lan Zhan is portrayed, I was very aware that there are some….misunderstandings built into people’s headcanons about him being autistic, notably people taking the brevity of his speech to mean that he doesn’t talk much. I’ve seen the complaints about “Lan Zhan talking like a caveman” (which I blame the ExiledRebels translation of the novel for, ok).I want to make it very clear that what I’m trying to convey here is not that Lan Zhan is autistic because he speaks briefly, but because he just...doesn’t talk, especially in tense situations or when he seems upset.
Also, on the topic of chapter two: In this fic (and any others I write, though I don’t know if that’s happening), Wen Ning is written as what the autistic community used to refer to as an “autistic cousin”-- a person who isn’t autistic but has a neurological disorder that gives them traits in common with autistic people. If you’re not familiar with this concept, you can read about it here or here. Yes, I know “having part of your soul snatched by a statue as a small child” isn’t a neurological disorder but this fic is set in high fantasy ancient China, let me bend some rules.
Anyhow, I hope you enjoyed the fic! I’m not here for discourse but if you want to offer helpful cultural criticism, or have a nice discussion about how Lan Zhan is def autistic, you can say hi here, on tumblr, or in the comments of the fic.
When I could, I tried to link archive sites like DeviantArt and Pixiv, which are good sites for posting art but occasionally have NSFW ads, so be warned.
All art that isn’t otherwise attributed is by me.
Detective Conan/Magic Kaito
Riddle in Reverse Series: (tumblr tag)
Gundam 00
The Island of Misfit Toys: (art) Cover Image
Interim: (art) Cover Image
I love it when a plan comes together
The Man with the Shield: (fic tag)
What became of his ancestry: (fic tag)
Kagerou Project
Reset The World:
FMA
A Recurring Nightmare with Popcorn: (fic tag)
Unexpected: (art) Ed in his red sweatshirt
Discontinued Fics
Sealed Wings (TRC):
Shards of Sky (Scrapped Princess): (art) Bicycle Crashes
Past & Future (Code Geass): (art) Euphine/Disguised!Euphemia
Blind Justice (Code Geass): *please do not read this, I only leave it up because people still have it favorited*